"This is why many creationists debate people who hold to ID as not being on their side."

If the IDers aren't on the creationists side then why aren't creationists, like the creationist leader Ken Ham, debating the makers of this movie, rather than, as they are doing, urging everyone to support it? Instead, it is the moderate Old Earth organization, Reasons to Believe, which has much more in common with intelligent design than the Young Earth creationists, that has made reasoned and principled criticisms of 'Expelled' and refused to endorse it. [Cf. http://www.heardworld.com/higgaion/?p=1009#comments]

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